What Does the Bible Say About Pastors who are Sociopaths?

What Does the Bible Say About Pastors who are Sociopaths?

By: Susan Deborah Schiller

When you know authentic love, the many varieties of counterfeits are simple to spot. The family of Christ Jesus was not well known or wealthy, and Isaiah tells us that Jesus was an ordinary man – that there was nothing about him that caused him to stand out in a crowd. In fact, he avoided crowds, and if a crowd began to grow around him, he would share stories of people who gave their all… the widow giving her last mite, the Good Samaritan… and he sometimes told people what it would take to follow him – picking up their cross, selling everything and giving ot the poor, etc. It pretty much thinned out the crowd, unless there was food involved. 

What he preached, he lived, both in public and in private. And that's the key difference between sociopathic pastors and authentic pastors.

There's a whole different kind of pastor these days. They appear like Jesus and they are great at drawing the crowds. They seem to have special protection, in fact, that dupes people into trusting them. It's an occult power and they are children of the devil, dressed up as Christian leaders, teachers, pastors, therapists, doctors, and missionaries.

At home, with their wives and children, they are not like Jesus – not one little bit – but no can imagine an evil so great that it can mask itself so well, so they silence the victims and cover up the crimes.

Jesus told a parable about the "wheat and tares" explaining how God had planted a field of wheat (His people) and the enemy came in during the night and sowed tares (which look exactly like wheat but are unhealthy, noxious weeds). Jesus said that the wheat and tares look so identical that not even the angels in heaven can tell them apart!

Sociopaths have been in leadership in all religions throughout history. Two of their preferred career paths is "pastor" and "counselor". They also love to be scout leaders, salesmen, doctors, attorneys, politicians, etc. They love to be put in positions held in honor and trust. (For more information on "what is a sociopath?" click here).

In God's heart of love He is so concerned for his own children that He cannot bear the thought of even one of them accidentally being labeled as a tare and thrown out, so as Jesus explains, the wheat and tares must grow up together until the harvest. Only at the very end of Time will the tares be apparent. In the meantime, the tares (sociopaths) are wreaking havoc, all the more so as the End draws near.

How does God see them, these poser-shepherds of His people? Ezekiel 34 provides an explicit story, along with God's solution to this problem.

34 Then the word of the Lord came to me saying, “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel. Prophesy and say to [a]those shepherds, ‘Thus says the Lord [b]God, “Woe, shepherds of Israel who have been [c]feeding themselves! Should not the shepherds [d]feed the flock? You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with the wool, you slaughter the fat sheep without [e]feeding the flock. Those who are sickly you have not strengthened, the [f]diseased you have not healed, the broken you have not bound up, the scattered you have not brought back, nor have you sought for the lost; but with force and with severity you have dominated them. They were scattered for lack of a shepherd, and they became food for every beast of the field and were scattered. My flock wandered through all the mountains and on every high hill; My flock was scattered over all the surface of the earth, and there was no one to search or seek for them.”’”

Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: “As I live,” declares the Lord God, “surely because My flock has become a prey, My flock has even become food for all the beasts of the field for lack of a shepherd, and My shepherds did not search for My flock, but rather the shepherds fed themselves and did not feed My flock; therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: 10 ‘Thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I am against the shepherds, and I will demand My [g]sheep [h]from them and make them cease from feeding [i]sheep. So the shepherds will not [j]feed themselves anymore, but I will deliver My flock from their mouth, so that they will not be food for them.”’”

The Restoration of Israel

11 For thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I Myself will search for My sheep and seek them out. 12 As a shepherd [k]cares for his herd in the day when he is among his scattered [l]sheep, so I will [m]care for My [n]sheep and will deliver them from all the places to which they were scattered on a cloudy and gloomy day. 13 I will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries and bring them to their own land; and I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the streams, and in all the inhabited places of the land. 14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and their grazing ground will be on the mountain heights of Israel. There they will lie down on good grazing ground and feed in [o]rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. 15 I will feed My flock and I will [p]lead them to rest,” declares the Lord God. 16 “I will seek the lost, bring back the scattered, bind up the broken and strengthen the sick; but the fat and the strong I will destroy. I will feed them with judgment.

There is coming a time of restoration in our lives, for those of us who have endured the suffering of sociopaths. In God's justice system. The deeper the torment, the higher the reward. Two mercies for every woe.

This earth-time, this growing of the harvest time, is temporary. What our Father sees is the Glory that is in store for us, that will give us the courage to overcome all evil. We are not powerless or defenseless. No way!

Whether we are empowered or powerless is apparent by how we perceive the threats against us. 

In some of the chapters of my life's story (Broken PotteryThe Ultimate RevengeCuring the Sting of BetrayalLife After the Sociopath) you will read how the sociopaths became God's sculpting instruments – called "Glory Enhancers" – in carving out the fleshly, sinful parts of my character.

In short, the "glory enhancers" and their cutting words become tools to beautify the life God is creating in you and me. 

Why doesn't God just get rid of the tares – these sociopaths who mock us, revile us, and kill us?

It's we who have given Chaos the power it has, here on earth. And it's we who have the power to rule in the midst of our enemies. In Psalm 23, instead of removing our enemies, God, pictured as "The Good Shepherd," sets a table in the presence of our enemies, showing us favor, right in their faces!

God, in fact, does not desire to "kill" evil… in fact, He allows Satan limited access to His Throne Room, as seen in the life of Job. He uses Satan's own plans to bring glory to Himself, turning everything around for the Good for you and me!

Jesus gave us "all authority" to do the works that He did while on earth. Jesus was never intimidated or threatened by Satan, although he was harassed, tempted, and wearied by the attacks. He focused on the glory and the joy set before him. He didn't once try to get rid of Lucifier. His focus was on the Light, not the darkness.

He is our pioneer in this life of faith, our role model. The disciples, who were probably loving the power that came forth from their hands as they prayed for people and saw all kinds of signs, wonders, and miracles, wanted to call down fire from heaven to burn up their enemies, at one point. Jesus stopped them in their tracks.

He didn't come, at that time, to destroy the world but rather, to save it… by laying down his own life. He showed us a different way. He tells us to do the same. He commands us to pray for our enemies, even as Job prayed for the friends who tore his soul to pieces with their version of "love" and "truth".

I don't have all the answers as to how God sees what our modern society call "sociopaths". All I know is that I have lived with them and among them and it nearly killed me. It exposed my soul in a way that nothing else could have ever done. I'm grateful for the work God has done in using them as sharp instruments that have enhanced His glory in my life. I write about all the benefits in this chapter, "Creating Happiness".

I believe we need to be careful in how we expose known abusers in our churches and ministries, for sometimes it becomes a public debacle. As in Ezekiel 34, it muddies the waters and all of the sheep – innocent and guilty – are harmed.

I believe we need to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves in handling abusers in our churches and ministries. We must speak up for justice, set the captives free, and rescue the perishing. But we must use God's strategies and not their own, such as slander, intimidation, threats, etc. We are eagles, who listen to the voice of God and see as He sees. 

What the predators hate the most is being spotted by the "eagles".

Like an abused wife escaping to freedom for a sociopathic spouse, so the Church today needs to understand how we have been battered and bruised by pastors who are sociopaths… and how we can become free.

That is my prayer and my biggest reason for this website – thank you for joining me today!

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With all my love,


Susan Schiller knows how it feels to lose everything: marriage and family, church and reputation, finances and businesses, and more. Susan's upcoming, interactive memoir, "On the Way Home," tells the story of how she came to be known as "the most abused woman" her counselors had yet met and how she learned to navigate to freedom and fullness.  
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erin boyea June 5, 2018 at 12:55 pm

I recently came to the conclusion with my sister that our father is a sociopath. He has pastored a non-denominational church with my mother for over 20 years. Growing up he never told us he loved us, and my mother would say he never held us as babies or changed one diaper. He has repeatedly told me over the years that if he could go back in time, he would remain single and not have kids. I grew up unable to be in any successful friendship or romantic relationship. My mother has been in and out of rehabs, professing her desire for divorce and/or suicide every winter but then acting like all is well come summertime. My sister and I are in our mid-30s and I've now been in therapy for 2 years before coming to this knowledge of who my father really is. There's no one I can talk to because everyone in our community likes my dad. He bowls in a men's league and plays golf and speaks at funerals and weddings and events with other churches so everyone knows his public persona side which is night and day from who he is at home. My sister and I also suffered unusual punishments as children and both have been treated for mental illness, mainly anxiety/asthma/panic attacks. It's sad to think I came into the world unwanted and unloved. And that my mother has stayed with him all these years, despite it costing her the estrangement of her two children. 


White Dove June 9, 2018 at 2:43 am

Years of suffering and terrible loss (the family life that could have been, the relationships that you could have had) has led you to Truth and Wisdom, along with keys for a beyond-normal life, a supernatural life.  You describe a very real phenonmenon, which often leaves the victims in the darkness of living with a liar. And for your mom, who does not have the courage to turn on the Light, so she also left you in darkness.

There are no easy answers. I was living your mom’s life for two decades. My children paid a heavy price. I finally left. It caused them to pay a heavy price for that, too. It’s really hard to know what could have helped them to have a better life, but in the present moment of today, all of them are healthy and happy. We enjoy a good relationship but it’s taken each of looking to our own selves to choose love, to choose happiness, and to take the daily small steps toward freedom.

This is the point where you seem to be, Erin…. and it takes a lot of courage. There were always be days when you may want to give in, like your mom has voiced, but if you keep pressing on, choosing love and truth, you will be rewarded with a much better life than you would have had, if your family had been perfectly normal in a good way. This I believe with all my heart, that the best is yet in front of you.

Keep pressing onward!

And thank you for sharing your story, because others need to hear so their eyes and ears will be open to the victims who hide behind closed doors.

Much love to you, Erin!


L November 23, 2016 at 9:06 am

I believe a Young Adults Pastor I had displayed the characteristics of a Sociopath. I noticed his desire for control and power over others. This is a long example and the original point does come…..

He would put new and back-sliden Christians in roles of leadership in the Church. These Christians had many secular views and did not really know the Bible well and had not internalized many of it's foundational teachings (yet). To be in these positions as role models and teachers of the Bible, seemed like the blind leading the blind, which I believe, was not healthy or productive for the Church body. I taught a girls club at the church initially with one of these Christians, who gave off the impression before we began the club season that she was knowledgeable and knew her Bible stuff, but it almost immediately became apparent she did not, once the first lesson began.

(I'd like to add here that this was a church I had only been at for roughly a year and had not gotten close enough at that point to have noticed what was going on with many of the people placed in leadership) 

However, it all soon began to unravel. The girl was busy with University, so I began the lessons with the club girls on my own, then she joined in. I encouraged the club girls to participate in discussion and ask anything they wanted. Unfortunately, I was not prepared at all for the secular and Biblically twisted answers that this University girl offered, due to her major lack of Biblical teaching at that point in her life. I quickly corrected her answers, so the club girls received actual Biblical teaching, but this infuriated the girl. Mortifyingly, a couple more lessons went by and she continued voicing her knowledge and being inflamed at my corrections. There was really nothing I could do. She thought it was easy to teach young girls in a Church and would not listen to me that she did not yet have the Biblical knowledge and understanding to be answering the club girl's sudden questions. I could not have prepared her for these questions. Not to mention, our busy schedules did not even permit the time I would have needed to fully teach her the planned lessons. Furthermore, she wanted to plan her own lessons, so my offer that she be an assistant instead of a teacher was indignantly rejected.  

Anyway, after a handful of lessons, she angrily told me that this wasn't working out and handed the class over to me. When I next saw the Children's Pastor, he made known to me that she went to the Young Adults Pastor and plead her case, but the Children's Pastor said he held the same conviction as me over the situation. A truck load of bullying then ensued from the Young Adults Pastor, who by the way never asked for my side of the story and mostly ignored me with a stiff upper lip. He only told me I should have taught her and didn't listen that his 'solution' was never a possibility in the circumstances that were.

I also don't believe that if I had met with her to go over the lessons, in what would likely have been a slim 1 hour prep time for each lesson, that I could have made her ready (and adjusted her mind and beliefs) to a tolerable degree to teach the children appropriately. To prepare material for her that I knew off by heart from years of Biblical learning…and sub-plant her current understanding and value system in such immediacy, seemed an impossible task. If it were really young children then the type of lessons would have been easy for her to teach because she wouldn't likely be discussing higher ethical, moral and abstract concepts, like grades 4-6 crave and find insatiably interesting, which was our age group.

Putting this aside, the Young Adults Pastor started cutting me off and silencing me during young adults Bible studies. I guess this was his way of avenging the girl and punishing me, twisted as it was. However, later on I came to believe that the vehement anger he displayed towards me was also probably because I had rejected his method of leadership placing. For awhile, I kept attempting to talk to him about what happened, but would not be listened too. Then I found out I was being accused of being someone who was greedy over the teaching, not willing to share the 'power.' This was ridiculous because I had another girl from the Church, who I knew a whole lot better, co-teach a few classes with me when she had a sliver of free time from University. Our lessons went smoothly and we taught with like-mindedness, adding to each others thoughts and happy with each others extra tidbits of meaty knowledge. For me it was about sharing Biblical truth and teachings.

It then happened that I began to become sensed to some other instances that had occurred in the past with the Young Adults Pastor. In our Bible study groups, separated into genders, I would sometimes encourage a girl or everyone, in a gentle and excited way, by talking about living our lives for Jesus and referring to scripture. More than once, the Pastor walked by and freaked out and told me not to talk about what I was talking about, even though everyone else seemed to be happy and in agreement with me. His new wife was in our group and quietly told me she believed what I believed and was taught the same things as me at her Church, but that he had a different way of thinking. She told us if she ever brought the teachings up at home, he would completely bull her over and slam the teachings. At this, she tensed a little and quickly said she probably shouldn't be telling us this. Well, this threw a red flag in the air for me, made me intensely worried about her, and I greatly wondered what his thinking could be. I did notice, since I've had a decent amount of Biblical teaching between a few Churches where there were theological standards, that his firm answers to many questions seemed slightly panicked and made up on the spot. Moreover, if his assertions were questioned and the real answers presented, he would defend his own random explanations as being the real truth.

So consequently, my interest was now peaked at the contemplation of these two really bizarre situations with him. I still thought I could talk to him and reason out the 'misunderstandings' that must be the cause, but I would have to figure out what he believed first. Dumbly courageous as I usually am (outside the work environment), I let the girl's club issue alone and began innocently asking him Biblical questions during "free-time" at Bible studies to widdle out what he actually believed. He obviously didn't want to talk to me, but to seemingly keep up appearances, in a tight room with observers in close proximity, he tolerated my questions, which, as a bonus for him, put him in a place of authority over me.

After a few times of this, he came out with the declaration that the books of 1st John and 2nd John shouldn't be in the Bible. I had not expected this and my mouth just hung open and I stared at him in shock. He was completely against all the teachings in these books, which I think most Christians know, correlate to pretty much most teachings in the other books of the Bible. I basically stopped asking questions after that. A while later, I thought he just didn't understand and that maybe he's a Pastor who got his position without actually getting a Biblical degree because of his charisma, popularity and people winning abilities. So, courageously yet again, though not as courageously, I e-mailed him. I thought, he makes it difficult for me to talk to him at Church, so I can fill him in on what the Bible says over e-mail….heh. I presented a lot of scripture in other parts of the Bible that 'proved' the books of 1st John and 2nd John go hand in hand with the rest of the Bible. My belief was/is that grace and good works go hand in hand, and over time should reveal themselves as a Christian matures.  

Is it surprising? He completely rejected all the scripture I carefully compiled for him. So, confused and awash in a pale ghost-like feeling, I continued a few more e-mails back and forth, which can be described as a near polite continuing lack of agreement, with a summation of him telling me to get out of [that] Church. 

There are some more sub-stories with him that took place amidst the two largely bizarre situations, which mainly pertained to undertones of male superiority and the audacity of me not dating whoever wanted to date me in the Church. I am not a cow to give my life to whoever wants me and I should not be treated with contempt for not having feelings for someone who has them or something like them for me. It seemed to me, unless I agreed to his will, like others seemed to, I would not be treated well, and be shockingly ostracized and cast out.

Additionally, of all the times I talked to him from the beginning, sharing my life, it was like he was never really listening. When I would be finished talking, his responses showed that he patched up parts of what I said and came up with a completely wrong understanding of what I had told him. His responses were full of assumptions and judgments to connect the lapses in listening, which didn't fit with what had actually been said at all. 

I also witnessed him many times in the throws of pastoring a struggling person in a serious and sorrowful  manner –to suddenly disengaged and immediately be joyful and exuberant when noticing a friend or interesting goings on nearby. I thought, how can he actually be feeling empathy? To cut off sorrow so cleanly, right in the middle of caring for a downhearted person? His empathy must be an act. There of course is more besides all this, but I'm going to refrain from writing an actual novel.

Subsequently, the whole experience left me overwhelmingly distraught and I could not get over it or stop thinking about it every day. I spent two years trying to deal with it on my own, trying to bring some end to the frustration of what was happening in the fibre of that Church and the slander said about me, such as the accusation of not being a Christian or saved. I shakily summed up the courage…. actually forced myself in sheer terror to confront him, by planning a meeting with him and a trusted Pastor from a Church I had been attending. I knew I needed a decent Pastor involved who wasn't close with him, so that he would actually show up (for appearances sake) and communicate somewhat. The support also helped me to be able to think tolerably straight and form sentences that made sense.

The Outcome? Basically, he denied the few things that I confronted him with, all the while holding a steady child-like expression of dumb-founded innocence on his face. I was able to finally explain my side of the story regarding the girls club situation, while he stuck to his original beliefs about it (with which beliefs my trusted Pastor had been appalled and bewildered with when I had previously told him, despite them being Pastors at sister Churches). I did not bring up his beliefs in the Bible at the meeting, as there seemed no point, but I did pointedly explain my stance that I've always had on grace and works. While he denied that he had claimed I was not a saved Christian, I asked if he presently thought that I was not a saved Christian, of which he replied no.

So, in the end I did feel a little better, but still was extremely disappointed in him, especially when he shock my hand to leave with his back to the other Pastor and gave me a scowly look. On my end, I just glimpsed at him while having a relieved and happy look on my face and chose not to let his true nature affect me. He hadn't actually repented of anything and told me to sweep everything under the carpet at the meeting. I had hoped for an apology, regarding even one thing, but what I did get out of it was better than nothing. I still never want to see him again as long as I live and I still have to live with the stigma others have about me because of him. I've worked at praying for him, in which I ask God to work in him and replace all his bad traits with good ones because the Bible says nothing is impossible for God, even the transformation of a suspected Sociopath.




Susan Schiller November 26, 2016 at 9:30 pm

Dear L….

How I wish your story were not so common. I’m not sure you’re ready to hear my thoughts on this, but I believe the whole system of how we do church is a set up for this type of perverted authority. Our whole method of educating the young is open to all kinds of error, misunderstandings, false teaching, and worse…. 

I sense you have a kind, committed, compasionate, and passionate heart for God and others. You have sought wisdom. You have tried everything you know to work peacefully with others. You know what it’s like to work in tandem with like-minded people.

But then there’s the beautiful side of evil… exhibited so profusely in our churches. Hidden so cleverly.

It’s pervasive…. across denominations. So much so that I don’t know if there are many churches at all that are safe from this type of evil.

The “stigma” – yes, I know this well.

It’s permanent, but in  God’s sight it’s beautiful.

God once said to me, “If only you could see you as I see you… your reckless faith, even though it seems like you’re hanging on by a ragged thread, makes you STUNNING in My eyes!”

It was during a time such as you describe, when I chose to love Him and give Him my all despite everything thrown against me. 

L, when I was in your shoes I stepped back from church. I laid down my ministry. That may not be what God is calling you to do, but for many of us, it has been what has saved us. 

Sometimes you need to step back in order to see with greater clarity. And it can take years. Literally.

Thankfully there are many of us sharing our stories to help validate others who are in the beginning throes of this storm. 

I encourage you to “evacuate” in advance of the storm. You may not understand now but as the fog clears, you will. Just seek God’s heart…. get intimate one-on-one like never before…. Don’t worry what others are saying about you. It will always be that way until they, too, have their Gethsemane. 

Like I said, you may not be ready to hear this yet….


Jan October 17, 2016 at 12:08 pm

Just because a sociopath preachers daughter has accused him of abuse doesn't make her a liar.  I have lived that life.  It's a very sad place to be.  People will believe him, and his victims are the ones that are not  believed.  My mother lived a very scared and sad life.  I pray judgement day on this man.and all like him.


Susan Schiller October 22, 2016 at 11:13 pm

An excellent prayer a friend once shared with me, that I have found is the best for my own heart and theirs: “Father, give ____ what he/she needs.” We bless those who curse us…. and it doesn’t mean they get away with anything….


Susan September 24, 2016 at 10:00 pm

My husband is a deceitful man and a liar. He leads a men's group. He tells me lies to my face knwing that I know he is lying. I felt the lord speaking calmy thorugh me to him the other night about what the Bible has to say about the eternal destiny of all liars, and I said it respectuflly. He actually listened. I had hoped he would take it to heart, but he has not; for while he actually did look uncomfortable and seemed convicted, he is right back to being deceitful. I was sure that I had a promise for God to heal my marriage, but it gets hard. He has no problem spinning the truth and I wonder if he believes his own lies. The most charming, humble, reverent man you could ever meet, and absolutely full o f it. No one would believe it. I am struggling with anger at the revelation that he couldn't care less  aboutme. Transferred his (our???) money to an account I can't access and sites an event from years ago that is a non issue.Total Bologney Supreme. Unbelievable. I am so mad. I don't think it's wrong for me to feel so betrayed. I long to bust up his group of men that he gives all of this great advise to. He reads to them from "the man in the mirror", a copy I gave him long ago. He knows how to act…he teaches it! So weird. I am scared for him more than mad at him.

I know prayer is the best thing i can do but is that all?


Susan Schiller September 26, 2016 at 6:29 pm

Hi Susan,

You ask a good question at the end of sharing an incredibly difficult spot to be in. I would like to refer you to an expert on this: Kimberly Dimick – http://loveyourstory.org/category/joshua-kimberly-dimick/. I would encourage you to read everything she’s written on the subject you are inquiring about…. with an open mind and heart. She and her husband Josh have been where you and your husband are today… and they are now a beautiful, most loving and whole couple.

I hope this is helpful!


Jean March 4, 2016 at 7:34 pm

Is there any hope for a sociopath?  Can they change?  I have been so hurt by a sociopath pastor. I still love him dearly and worry about his salvation. I know he probably never cared for me at all, but my heart is so sad. I worry for him still. I can't hate him. It's not in me. 


Susan Schiller March 5, 2016 at 8:10 pm

Hi Jean,

One thing is certain, we cannot “love” them to life – it takes God’s power and authority plus some of their own will power to make a choice to choose love. It’s especially difficult for a church pastor/sociopath to be saved. Are they saved? I don’t think so at all. I believe they are children of their father – the father of lies – as Jesus once put it.

There is hope, I believe – and write about it at http://loveyourstory.org/does-a-sociopath-have-a-heart/

It’s very hard for us to reconcile that the man we loved, whether spouse or pastor or whoever it was in our lives, was no real – just a mask – an illusion. 

I understand that you still love him and wish him no ill. A wolf hiding under sheep skin is still a wolf until the Lord touches him. It’s very rare that these people change because (I believe) it’s rare for Christians to confront the wolves. Instead we offer them “grace”.

You have a kind heart, my friend. Your prayers from a distance will go far. Be careful, though – don’t get too close.

Just my two cents, as a fellow survivor…


Dan S. August 1, 2015 at 3:05 pm

We thought our pastor, ___ was just narcissistic, but it turn out that it was just one the symptoms of being a sociopath. ___ the former pastor at ___ presbyterian church is a sociopath.  ___ was kicked out of ___, ___ due to a 10 year affair induced by manipulation.  I would consider him a con artist. Pastor ___, like many other sociopaths are not concern with other people.  ___ has been exploiting people and using them for personal gain.  His own daughter has been warning people in his church by hinting that he abused her growing up and beat her with a belt.     ___ has hurt many people in their 20 years of ministry.  Very sad. 


Susan Schiller August 3, 2015 at 6:34 am

Hello Dan,

The pain of betrayal and calculated deception is so great, that when we first begin to tell our stories it can come out all in a rush. We want to trumpet our abuser’s name to the whole world, because we don’t want to be a part of the deception, we don’t want others to be as hurt and confused and devastated as we are.

There is a time for that kind of writing and sharing. Victims need a place to release the toxic brew the sociopath gave them to drink.

When I look at Jesus, in the garden praying, shortly before his betrayer and murderers arrived, he knew His father was guiding him to drink that toxic brew. He knew that life could not be destroyed by evil, but instead love, expressed in righteous acts, destroys evil. It’s just the opposite.

Once again, I have removed the names in your comments, replacing them with blanks, because I want to save you from making the same mistake I once did – of making our fight personal against a person. It’s pure evil that you appear to have encountered. It’s a demonic entity that afflicted your pastor, perhaps even welcomed by him at one time, but that is his story and we don’t know.

It’s perfectly okay to tell your story, Dan, but we must be very careful not to be accusing in our tone or words. We must strongly stand for truth, but never must we accuse, or we become part of the evil. We don’t want to give the enemy any ground. It’s our righteous acts that overcomes the darkness.

I want to encourage you to keep telling your story, and I would like to help you, if you wish, because as we learn to tell our stories in a way that helps detoxify the past, we can then rewrite the next chapter of our life stories in a more empowering way. 

Keep writing, Dan… keep writing until all the toxins are released. Keep writing until God gives you perfect peace and you feel His spirit co-creating and releasing life into you and through you into the world. Don’t ever give up. 

Evil would like us to give up. Evil is relentless. Sociopaths rarely change, and that’s one reason we don’t want to give any ground to the enemy, otherwise we could easily become part of the dark side. Never give up, because there are more on the side of Light than of the dark. You’re not alone, even though for awhile it will seem like evil is winning, but it’s not. 

I’m so sorry you’ve been harmed by this type of evil, Dan, and I pray God’s spirit fills you with resurrection power, peace, and the assurance that He’s going to make this right for you and your church. 


CSE July 31, 2015 at 4:57 pm

My church here in ___ presbyterian church just got rid of a sociopath pastor ___.  he has well known in the asian circle.  Sadly asians are submissive, so he blended into the culture very well.  We believe his daughter is also a sociopath as she also shares the same traits.  She tells stories that she was abused by her father growing up.  she would say things like, my dad beat me with a belt.  we know she is a pathological liar and didn't want to question her.  Pastor ___  has been removed, althought the ___ denomination refuses to mention his condition.  He has taken advantage of several women and we believe he will continue to prey on unsuspecting women out there.  Sites like this help warn people by providing information as a good reference.  Sociopaths like ___ need to be exposed.  If you google his name, you will see his story.  There are other criminal activity in additional to sexual exploitation of women. 


Susan Schiller July 31, 2015 at 7:01 pm


Unfortunately it’s becoming more and more common to hear of predator-pastors. I don’t use names on my site, because it’s impossible for me to closely examine the details of every case – there are so many. I removed the names you provided and replaced them with blanks. I’m sorry your church has had to go through this mess – it’s horrendous!

I appreciate that you see the family ties and how this evil is passed down through the generational lines. This is why we do need to share this information.


Tanya December 15, 2014 at 2:18 am

Oh wow! So glad i found this website! Amen amen and amen!!!


Susan Schiller December 15, 2014 at 6:20 am

I’m glad to meet you, Tanya 🙂


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